jan2013-A1
short pre-cutover
An app start too short to pin down a seed. Some have candidate seeds, listed on their pages; their counts are plotted by draw with the draws numbered from the first post (an assumption).
- Period (UTC)
- 2013-01-03 06:00:00 → 2013-01-08 13:59:58
- Posts
- 9 (short: 9)
- First / last post
15vhjm/166lht- Draws
- Not known: no seed was found, so the posts are numbered from the first post, at draw 1, as consecutive draws (an assumption; the 2012 build starts at draw 0, the 2013 build at draw 1 after its startup draw)
- Posting interval
- 16 h
- Title clock
- UTC−2 at the first post
- Started
- Wed 2013-01-02 06:00–22:00 Pacific (estimate: within one posting interval before the first post)
Notes
- piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded
Possible seeds
Two seeds reproduce all nine posts. Against the two hits expected by chance in the window, the pair is not evidence, so the run is not counted as reproduced. Both boots that would be expected a priori are excluded.
The run
Nine posts, 3 to 8 January 2013, every 16 hours, with the title clock on UTC−2. The 2013 build draws 4 × Next(8, 16) per post. Draw 0 is the startup draw, and the posts run from draw 1.
| Draw | Post | Posted (UTC) | N |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 15vhjm | 3 Jan, 06:00:00 | 44 |
| 2 | 15wtz8 | 3 Jan, 22:00:00 | 48 |
| 3 | 15y7po | 4 Jan, 14:00:00 | 44 |
| 4 | 15zuqj | 5 Jan, 06:00:00 | 44 |
| 5 | 160zew | 5 Jan, 21:59:59 | 60 |
| 6 | 1626ov | 6 Jan, 13:59:59 | 32 |
| 7 | 163u1f | 7 Jan, 05:59:59 | 36 |
| 8 | 1656hd | 7 Jan, 21:59:58 | 32 |
| 9 | 166lht | 8 Jan, 13:59:58 | 48 |
Why it is hard
Each post has eight possible values, so nine posts carry 27 bits. That is enough to make any window of up to about 100 million seeds meaningful, but the boot is unknown, and the launch is only bounded to 1.1 posting intervals, about 18 hours.
How it was narrowed
The neighbours give the first constraints. Run 39 last posted on 12 December 2012, the morning of the December reboot after Patch Tuesday (11 December), and the unseeded fixed-N posts that followed had several breaks. The next piece, jan2013-A2, starts on 9 January, and run 40 is on a boot between 9 January, 03:28 and 10 January, 05:52.
| Step | Constraint | Candidates | Expected by chance | Seeds found |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Every seed on the tick grid | First post at draw 1 | about 137 million | 1.0 | 2 |
| Run 39's boot | Run 39's boot continued (20 November) | about 4.5 million | 0.03 | 0, so excluded |
| December reboot | A reboot on 12 or 13 December, 09:00 to 12:30 UTC | about 9.7 million | 0.07 | 0, so excluded |
| Any boot | A boot after run 39's last post (12 December, 06:00:08), launch within 1,056 minutes | about 122 million | 0.91 | 2 |
The candidates
| Seed | Startup draw (never posted) | Draws 1 to 9 | Boot (UTC) | Fits a break in the fixed-N run |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 162,853,390 | 36 | 44, 48, 44, 44, 60, 32, 36, 32, 48 | 31 December, 15:09 to 1 January, 08:45 | Yes: the fixed-N gap from 31 December, 07:00 to 1 January, 07:56 |
| 1,000,996,750 | 40 | 44, 48, 44, 44, 60, 32, 36, 32, 48 | 21 December, 22:20 to 22 December, 15:56 | Yes: a fixed-N restart before 23 December, 05:00 (title clock and seconds change) |
Both reproduce draws 1 to 9 against the stream of the .NET generator.
Reading. Each candidate's boot lines up with a break in the fixed-N stretch. A break can also be an ordinary reconfiguration, so that does not choose between them. Two hits against 0.91 expected is chance-level: the window covers most of the seed space, which holds only two hits on the tick grid at draw 1, and the empirical probability of a pair this good is about 0.66.
What could decide it
Showing that one of the fixed-N breaks was a reboot rather than a change within the same process, or a second piece on the same boot.
Counts
Posts
| Post | Title | Posted (UTC) | Draw | N | Mask seed | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
15vhjm | 201301030359 | 2013-01-03 06:00:00 | 1 | 44 | 609 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
15wtz8 | 201301031959 | 2013-01-03 22:00:00 | 2 | 48 | 484 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
15y7po | 201301041159 | 2013-01-04 14:00:00 | 3 | 44 | 775 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
15zuqj | 201301050359 | 2013-01-05 06:00:00 | 4 | 44 | 569 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
160zew | 201301051959 | 2013-01-05 21:59:59 | 5 | 60 | 228 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
1626ov | 201301061159 | 2013-01-06 13:59:59 | 6 | 32 | 116 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
163u1f | 201301070359 | 2013-01-07 05:59:59 | 7 | 36 | 666 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
1656hd | 201301071959 | 2013-01-07 21:59:58 | 8 | 32 | 471 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |
166lht | 201301081159 | 2013-01-08 13:59:58 | 9 | 48 | 370 | explained | piece A, 9 posts 16-hourly (zone -2); undecided: candidate seeds 162,853,390 / 1,000,996,750, 2 hits vs 0.91 expected; run 39 and Dec Patch-Tuesday boots excluded |