1aorpo
short pre-cutover
An app start too short to pin down a seed. Some have candidate seeds, listed on their pages; their counts are plotted by draw with the draws numbered from the first post (an assumption).
- Period (UTC)
- 2013-03-20 21:01:00 → 2013-03-21 09:00:59
- Posts
- 7 (short: 7)
- First / last post
1aorpo/1aq1td- Draws
- Not known: no seed was found, so the posts are numbered from the first post, at draw 1, as consecutive draws (an assumption; the 2012 build starts at draw 0, the 2013 build at draw 1 after its startup draw)
- Posting interval
- 2 h
- Title clock
- UTC−4 at the first post
- Started
- Wed 2013-03-20 12:01–14:01 Pacific (estimate: within one posting interval before the first post)
Notes
- range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected
Possible seeds
Three seeds reproduce all seven posts, and they sit in the most likely boot window, where about 1.25 chance matches would be expected. Nothing separates them firmly, so the run is not counted as reproduced.
Why it is hard
Each post has eight possible values, so the seven posts carry 21 bits: a random seed matches them by chance about once in 2 million. Over all seeds that is about a thousand chance matches. The first post is on a round schedule time, so the launch can be anywhere in the 132 minutes (1.1 posting intervals) before it. Even with the boot known to the second, that window alone holds about 0.2 chance matches.
How it was narrowed
| Step | Constraint | Candidates | Expected by chance | Seeds found |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Every seed | First post at draw 1 (2013 build) | about 137 million | 65 | 68 on the tick grid |
| Run 42's boot | A fresh start on the 13 February boot | about 770,000 | 0.37 | 0, so not that boot |
| After run 42 | A boot after its last post (9 March, 01:26:46), launch within 132 minutes | about 65 million | 31 | 33 |
| Patch-Tuesday reboot | A boot on 13 March, 09:00 to 12:30 UTC | about 1.3 million | 0.63 | 2 |
| Patch-Tuesday reboot | A boot on 13 or 14 March, 09:00 to 12:30 UTC | about 2.6 million | 1.25 | 3 |
The reboot is a reasonable guess. Of about 28 distinct boots in the run table from 2013 on, 16 fall one or two days after Patch Tuesday, at about 09:30 to 12:30 UTC. March 2013's Patch Tuesday was 12 March, and the daylight-saving change had already happened, so 03:00 Pacific is 10:00 UTC. The last post was at 09:00 UTC on 21 March. The next slot, at 11:01, would have fallen after the machine's reboot at about 09:35 to 10:19 that morning. That is the same pattern as the other short pieces: the run stops when the machine reboots.
The candidates
| Seed | Startup draw (never posted) | Draws 1 to 7 | Boot (UTC) | Fits the reboot |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 643,201,468 | 52 | 44, 40, 56, 56, 52, 48, 56 | 13 March, 08:08 to 10:20 | yes: 01:08 to 03:20 Pacific |
| 636,247,656 | 40 | 44, 40, 56, 56, 52, 48, 56 | 13 March, 10:04 to 12:16 | yes: 03:04 to 05:16 Pacific |
| 542,563,171 | 56 | 44, 40, 56, 56, 52, 48, 56 | 14 March, 12:06 to 14:18 | at the edge: 05:06 to 07:18 Pacific |
All three reproduce draws 1 to 7 against the stream of the .NET generator. The launch for any of them is between 18:49 and 21:01 UTC on 20 March (a Wednesday, 11:49 to 14:01 Pacific), within the hours the operator usually started runs in, so the launch time does not decide between them.
Reading. If the true seed is in the window, one true match plus about 1.25 chance matches predicts three hits well, but chance alone gives three or more about one time in eight. The two seeds from 13 March are the likely pair. 542,563,171 is weaker, since its boot is later than the usual reboot hour.
Chance matches cluster
Seeds a fixed distance apart share their first draws in the .NET generator, so chance matches come in clusters. Allowing for that, the empirical probability of three or more matches in the 13 and 14 March window is about 0.17, not the 0.13 a simple count gives.
What has been ruled out
- The GUID-list seeds in the post bodies are wall-clock milliseconds, not uptime, so they cannot date the boot.
- The launch hour is the same for all three candidates.
- The startup draw has no visible use. Its value gives only a weak hint: 643,201,468 falls in a band where such draws have been slightly more common across the 2013 runs. That is an after-the-fact pattern, and it does not decide the choice.
What could decide it
An independent constraint on the 13 March boot, or on the launch time to within about 30 minutes, or a second piece that ran on the same boot.
Counts
Posts
| Post | Title | Posted (UTC) | Draw | N | Mask seed | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1aorpo | 201303201701 | 2013-03-20 21:01:00 | 1 | 44 | 90 | explained | range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected |
1ap1ew | 201303201900 | 2013-03-20 23:01:00 | 2 | 40 | 955 | explained | range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected |
1apavu | 201303202100 | 2013-03-21 01:01:00 | 3 | 56 | 869 | explained | range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected |
1apk45 | 201303202300 | 2013-03-21 03:01:00 | 4 | 56 | 814 | explained | range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected |
1aps97 | 201303210100 | 2013-03-21 05:01:01 | 5 | 52 | 710 | explained | range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected |
1apy15 | 201303210300 | 2013-03-21 07:01:00 | 6 | 48 | 655 | explained | range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected |
1aq1td | 201303210500 | 2013-03-21 09:00:59 | 7 | 56 | 568 | explained | range-8 piece (7 posts): undecided; candidate seeds 643,201,468 / 636,247,656 (Mar 13 Patch-Tuesday boot) / 542,563,171, 3 hits vs 1.25 expected |